davese16 12:58 Tue Dec 31
moyes tactics/formation
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id like to see us play a 3-5-2 against bournemouth with 2 attacking wingbacks that can make it 5 at the back if needed
fabianski
diop rice ogbonna
fredericks masuaku
anderson lanzini fornals
haller antonio
or if slightly more defensive noble in centre midfield with fornals on the bench, possibly cresswell for masuaku
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camel-with-3-humps
1:02 Tue Dec 31
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No a chance in hell Fornals, Anderson and Lanzini all starting. No way.
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Chigwell
1:08 Tue Dec 31
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The main tactic should be run, tackle, pass, run. All match not just for the first half hour. Something Pellegrini never quite managed to achieve.
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Keep dreaming
1:18 Tue Dec 31
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Why would you want Lanzini to start? Hes been gash
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Northern Sold
1:18 Tue Dec 31
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1-8-1-1
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El Scorchio
1:36 Tue Dec 31
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That midfield is far too lightweight. It would get completely overrun.
Could be 352 as he did this last time- however we have better defensive personnel now so we could stick with 4 at the back. so as not to be too disruptive after only a few days.
I can see him going for graft in midfield so it could be Noble, Rice and Snodgrass with Anderson shifted up front to use his pace and take any defensive responsibility away from him.
Who fucking knows. it'll be interesting to see who he picks and in what formation, though. I think he'll shake it up a bit with the front 6. He'll want compact, tough to play through, effort and then speed up front to play on the break like last time he took over I think.
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skunklauncher
1:40 Tue Dec 31
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---------------------fabianski
----------diop----ogbonna----cresswell
----fredericks----rice----noble----masuaku
---------antonio----haller----anderson
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HairyHammer
1:53 Tue Dec 31
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Haller and Antonio up front could be very exciting or slightly mental but I for one want to see it maybe half way through a game or if he is brave from the get go.
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Stubbo
1:54 Tue Dec 31
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I see Fredericks as a problem. He's got pace for sure but his quality on the ball is terribke and the wing backs are your width so need to be good crossers and good dribblers. Fredericks in my opinion is a better fullback than wing back.
The best right wing back we have is Antonio imo who is pretty similar to Masuaku in that respect. Wing backs dont need to be as defensively sound.
I reckon we'll go 3-4-3 like last time as the same central midfield frailties remain and a way to shore it up is wth the extra CB behind them so they are harder to just run past.
Who plays with Rice is the medium term key - it will be Noble to start but he needs replacing. Id like to see Fornals tried as the most mobile and hard working of our central playmakers.
Up top will be target man Haller, Lanzini who he liked and trusts from last time, and if not Antonio then Anderson who is not dissimilar to Joao Mario as more of a ball carrier and passer.
Fabianski
Balbuena Diop Ogbonna
Antonio Rice Noble Masuaku
Anderson Haller Lanzini
Feel sorry for Cresswell but hes not really got the pace to play at wing back, although he crosses better than Masuaku which could go in his favour.
Fredericks just isnt good enough at the top end of the pitch to be a wing back.
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GreenStreetPlayer
1:59 Tue Dec 31
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------------- Fab------------------
------Og------Diop-----Bal
Fred--------------------------Mas
----------------Rice---------------
--------Snod----------Ander-----
---------Ant-----------Hall---------
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Darby_
2:14 Tue Dec 31
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Fabianski
Diop — Rice — Ogbonna
Fred ———————- Cresswell
Snod — Noble — Fornals
Haller — Antonio
Anderson to be brought on fairly early in the second half on the right and told to use his speed and run at defenders.
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arsegrapes
2:58 Tue Dec 31
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Tactics and formations will go out the window when push comes to shove.
We might get a bit fitter, but I can see us running around like blue arse flies, parking the bus with hand brake on. When desperation sets in I can see Moyes reverting to “The Escapini Defence” if all else fails.
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El Scorchio
1:03 Tue Dec 31
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It’s a given we’ll play defensively. We have to tighten up, work harder and press more when we don’t have the ball. We also have to compete for 50/50s and second balls which we really weren’t doing against Pellegrini.
It probably won’t be pretty at least for a few games but it’s going to be very compact and defensive with trying to hit teams fast on the break.
I know people don’t like it and it’s not going to fill me with delight watching it either, but you do have to build from the back when in our situation. I just hope he gets a system working quickly.
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GreenStreetPlayer
1:16 Tue Dec 31
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"trying to hit teams fast on the break".
Have we got the players with enough pace to do that though. Antonio, anyone else?
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eswing hammer
1:23 Tue Dec 31
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He will have to shore up that defence, we have just come out as the worst prem defence of the decade conceding 520 goals, no set of fans have had to endure that !
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daveyg
1:24 Tue Dec 31
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If he continues using Snodgrass and Noble in the same line up he'll be as screwed as Pellegrini was.
Snoddy gets the odd goal but his lack of creating anything and pace far out weighs that. The same can be said of Noble.
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bill green
1:37 Tue Dec 31
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daveyg 1:24 Tue Dec 31
Agree
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bill green
1:38 Tue Dec 31
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in fact Pearce has said that Rice gets exposed when Noble goes walkabout chasing lost causes
and they know Masuaku cant defend, no surprise there of course
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El Scorchio
2:07 Tue Dec 31
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GreenStreetPlayer- Anderson is pretty rapid and to be fair to him can also finish, so I can see him possibly being put up front with Antonio. But I imagine Haller has to start regardless.
If he’s after Giroud, then perhaps he’s going to try and get him to knock it down to Antonio or another player. That won’t be very pretty, though.
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Stubbo
2:44 Tue Dec 31
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Snodgrass is *almost* worth his place for his set piece delivery which is truly excellent.
Noble should be the most under threat. I'd like to see him step aside and have Fornals developed into a Modric type player.
Anderson, Lanzini, Antonio, Masuaku are all quick enough on the break, and looking at the videos of Haller whilst no speed machine theres plenty evidence of him involved in attacks for Eintracht on the break.
As everyone can see is plainly obvious its the midfielder to press and dictate the play alongside Rice that is missing. Fornals has the tenacity and technical ability but is maybe too lightweight but Id say he's currently the best of our options.
Noble these days only offers commitment to the cause. Id quite like to see him become a bit part player-coach and start that transition.
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